"Is it necessary?" The cloud is not speechless.
The goods even beat themselves with the old man.
"Isn''t it necessary? What a good thing it is for us to send people and you 91 heavy industry to pay! " Yun Fei wants to slap Huang qiaosong. It''s like stealing money.
However, people are strengthening themselves with the support of the old man. Obviously, they are wronged, but they can''t refuse to accept it.
"How to divide the technical achievements?" Since there is no way to resist, we can only strive for the greatest benefits for ourselves.
There is no doubt about the research strength of 611 Institute, but it is not easy to make great progress in advanced materials. In particular, when visiting Chengdu aircraft, the person asked why he didn''t directly give up upgrading from the existing models and technologies and directly carry out the design and research of the fourth or even fifth generation fighters.
It took a hundred years for the United States to produce the fifth generation fighter, and decades for the Soviet Union to produce the Su-30. China''s aviation industry began in the 1960s, and all aircraft factories can only copy and improve some old aircraft from the Soviet Union. Even the Xiaolong fighter with huge export volume is improved according to the Jian-7 fighter with the largest domestic production in China, The shadow of Soviet aircraft technology can be seen in many places.
It was not until the emergence of the J-10 that China fully had the ability of aircraft design, but it did not mean that China fully had the ability of fighter manufacturing.
The engine is hard.
The strong R & D strength of 611 institute only refers to the comprehensive technical strength, not the research in every aspect. The design and manufacture of engine is one of the most difficult topics in China.
Yun Fei was curious about how the country''s nuclear submarines, which were so powerful that the United States was frightened, were made.
Yun Fei understands that China can manufacture strategic missiles that can drive rockets to fly tens of thousands of kilometers and rocket engines that can send satellites weighing several tons into the sky, but can not manufacture third-generation or even more advanced aircraft engines.
The main reason is the material problem.
The requirements of aeroengine for materials are much higher than those of rocket and missile engines. Rockets are disposable items. The fuel combustion time in the engine is very short, and the longest is only half an hour to an hour. However, the aircraft engine has to be used repeatedly. The impeller in the aircraft engine or other high-temperature parts near the combustion chamber often have to be maintained or replaced.
All, the most demanding materials in the world are the combustion chambers of aircraft engines and parts near the combustion chambers.
The working environment of internal parts of aircraft engine is one of the worst working environments in the world.
"It''s not right to start talking about how to divide the results yet?" Huang qiaosong was not such a person, but he studied Yunfei''s tone and asked Yunfei back.
He found that speaking like this, he didn''t have to think twice before he said anything every day. It was too much, too much.
"What''s wrong? When we pay, we should have most of the rights. Otherwise, let''s go our own way. " Yun Fei rolled his eyes.
I don''t know how many years will it take for the fourth generation fighter of factory 132 to complete the theoretical test. As soon as the old man left Chengdu, he found himself and wanted to cooperate with the Chengdu tool factory he had not completed the acquisition to do research on superalloy materials.
Chengdu Tool Factory is just a tool factory engaged in ordinary alloy. Where is the ability to develop superalloys that countless research institutes in the whole country can''t help!
"What is the most important thing in the 21st century? Talent! We have the main researchers, so the biggest cake should be given to our 132 factory. " Originally, factory 132 was equivalent to just entrusting Chengdu tool factory to study superalloys, and then carry out production after successful research. Factory 132 invested in the purchase. But seeing Yun Fei as a financial fan, Huang qiaosong felt it necessary to tease the boy.
The reason why the cooperation is proposed now is that the elderly are worried that Yunfei will wait until he has more money in his hands, and continue to invest research funds in some related industries. At that time, a research Empire integrating scientific research and production will be formed, which is stronger than the national research strength, making it difficult for the people in the central government. At the same time, Yunfei will also be very passive.
Many times, research often requires good luck.
Yunfei''s luck is quite good. At least, at present, the projects in the 91 Research Institute are high-tech projects that have not made any progress in some countries for a long time.
It''s as if Yunfei has a huge secret team behind him. Every time the research project of the 91 research institute gets into trouble, Yunfei''s casual words will make the researchers suddenly realize. However, no matter how you investigate, you can''t find out the slightest clue.
However, the boy has never been abroad since he was a child. In the two years in Huadu, he has not contacted several foreigners. Therefore, he can not be a foreign spy.
"Fart talents, do you mean to say that your researchers are talents? Since we are talents, why haven''t we made any progress for so many years? Others'' fourth generation fighters are about to enter service, and the fifth generation has started research. You haven''t even finished designing the third generation fighters. It''s good to say that there are no talents! " Yun Fei said maliciously to Huang qiaosong.
Although I still admire the researchers of Chengdu aircraft factory in my heart, now I have to belittle them in order to strive for benefits.
"...." Huang qiaosong was speechless. He didn''t know how to answer Yun Fei''s words.
Have a heart to refute it. Yun Fei is telling the truth.
"So, don''t talk about talents until you have no achievements! If you are really a talent, you have to look at those old friends who made two bombs and one satellite in the country. How much better research environment do you have than them? Up to now, even the theoretical design of the third generation fighter has not been completed. I blush for you... "Seeing Huang qiaosong speechless, Yun Fei spoke more and more vigorously.
"That''s enough, you boy. Don''t stand and talk without low back pain. Can you design a third generation fighter? What the fuck are you talking about without knowing the situation? Is it so easy to design a fighter? After the founding of the people''s Republic of China, the machinery and electronics industry was a blank. It was not easy for the Soviet Union to help us build up the basic industry, and then began the ten-year great turmoil. The aviation industry, which began in the 1980s, can be done without foundation? I was fucking thought that your boy was lucky, picked up a few Soviet experts, made a few profitable civilian projects, and began to raise his tail! " Huang qiaosong, who was so angry at Yunfei''s words that he ascended to heaven, lost his decades of self-restraint to the dog.
Seeing that Huang qiaosong''s original indifference disappeared, Yun Fei smiled.
I told you to be cool!
"What are you laughing at?" Huang qiaosong was so excited that his chest fluctuated and he wanted to continue to complain about Yunfei. However, seeing Yunfei drinking tea, he stared at himself with a smile and scolded himself all his life.
"Lao Huang, I said, why don''t you think a little jumping? Since our country''s third-generation fighter has lagged behind those foreign powers, why don''t we jump away from the research of the third-generation fighter and start the research directly from the fourth generation fighter? " Yun Fei took a sip of tea, put down the purple sand teacup the size of an ox''s eye, smiled at Huang qiaosong and said.
There is no essential difference between China''s study of the third generation fighter and that of the fourth generation fighter. Anyway, they are poor and have no foundation at all.
"Easy to say! Do you think fighters are as easy as you do CNC machine tools? " Hearing Yunfei''s words, Huang qiaosong was like being opened a door to heaven or hell.
In fact, the project of the third generation fighter in China has been approved since the mid-1970s, but up to now, it has been nearly 20 years, and there has been no progress. The main reason is that the domestic materials, processing and manufacturing technology and electronic industry are not good. Basically, nothing can be done except design.
The third generation fighter has been unable to make the first flight of final assembly, not only because China''s manufacturing technology and electronic technology can not meet the design requirements, but also because Lao maozi is unwilling to export aeroengines to China.
The fighter design of other countries generally continuously develops new materials and new processes to cooperate with the design, while China is the opposite. In order to make achievements, designers adapt to the existing domestic materials and manufacturing processes at the request of superior leaders.
How can we produce advanced fighters?
Moreover, the biggest disadvantage of China''s fighter R & D is that it began after the national project was approved. Research institutes and manufacturing enterprises do not have much autonomy. Unlike those aircraft manufacturers in foreign countries, they set up their own projects and then bid at the time of national military purchase bidding.
In order to get national orders and get more benefits, foreign airlines often bid with their best designs. After winning the bid, airlines get more profits, while the country gets better weapons and equipment.
The biggest difference between China and foreign countries in arms procurement is actually the system. Up to now, China''s arms manufacturing has not deviated from the model of planned economy. How can we get more and better weapons and equipment without power?
"Besides, where do we get the research funds if the country doesn''t set up a project? This is not just a little money! " Huang qiaosong is also very excited about Yun Fei''s words. Anyway, no matter how the three generations of fighters do, they are like this now, and even the most basic theoretical research has not been completed. If we start the theoretical research and design of the fourth generation fighter now, and wait until the material problems required by the third generation fighter are solved, the fourth generation fighter can also move from the drawing to the real object and put it in the production workshop for various static tests.
From the international definition of aircraft, the main characteristics of the third generation fighter are the use of turbofan engine with thrust weight ratio of 8, all-weather fire control system in all directions and at all heights, fly by wire control system and advanced aerodynamic layout. The weapons are mainly air-to-air missiles, supplemented by air guns. The maximum flight speed and altitude are similar to those of the second generation, and the subsonic and transonic mobility in medium and low altitude is outstanding, It also has the capability of over the horizon combat and down looking and down shooting.
The main characteristics of the fourth generation fighter are outstanding stealth performance, supersonic cruise capability, unconventional mobility and agility, short takeoff and landing capability (or all environment combat capability), which is called 4S for short. Turbofan engine with thrust to weight ratio of 10, phased array fire control radar, stealth technology and thrust vector technology are adopted, and "no matter after launch" air-to-air missile is the main weapon.
In the whole world, the countries with the fourth generation and above fighters are also the countries of Lao maozi and uncle ohm. Lao maozi can own it because of the strong foundation left by the Soviet era. However, the requirements of the fourth generation fighter for the electronic industry and machinery manufacturing capacity are much higher than those of the third generation. The su-47 owned by Lao maozi can only meet the standards of the fourth generation fighter. Compared with the United States, it is very poor.
The 32-bit single chip microcomputer developed by the 91 research institute makes it possible for China to build an advanced small computer system. At the same time, the 32-bit or 64 bit single chip microcomputer can make a qualitative improvement in the aircraft fire control radar system, electronic information system and even the guidance of air-to-air missiles carried by fighters.
The cloud is not very clear about this.
The electronic projects in their laboratory have cooperated with the military for several months. How can he, the owner of the Research Institute, not know the impact of these things on the whole national defense industry?
Now Huang qiaosong actually prevaricates himself with lack of money.
Obviously, this product wants to use this as an excuse to occupy more research results of cooperative projects.
"Shit, are you really short of money?" Yun Fei doesn''t believe Huang qiaosong''s words.
really
On the surface, Chengdu aircraft factory 132 and factory 130 are independent accounting, but that''s just their internal name. Many people in the outside world don''t even know the existence of factory 130. They just think that factory 132 has newly established several civilian products workshops.
Many products of factory 130 are relatively profitable, such as automobile engine factory, tooling mould factory, dry cleaning machine factory and jack factory. Although the profits of these factories are not as high as those of 91 heavy industry, they add up to tens of millions a year.
In 1990, the company was promoted to a national secondary enterprise. In 1991, the company was approved by the state as an export base enterprise of mechanical and electrical products; The technical transformation project of expanding the special loan for the export of mechanical and electrical products with the technical transformation project of dry cleaning machine, furniture hardware, Jack and MD head heat treatment as the main content has passed the national acceptance; The full-size metal prototype of the model project has completed the general assembly and passed the national review, and the new machine development has achieved a new breakthrough; With the successful delivery of the first MD nose, the company began to have the ability to produce large parts of civil aircraft with the international advanced level in the 1980s.
However, Chengdu aircraft factory has not reformed the wage scale since 1993, as in Yunfei world. They are no different from other state-owned enterprises. The redundant and swollen institutions and huge workforce have not been able to produce equivalent work performance.
According to the original historical development, Chengdu tool factory has reduced the fixed number of personnel by 22.3% and the overall personnel by 11.9%. The extra wages of thousands of people alone are enough for Chengdu aircraft factory to carry out some research projects.
"Lack, how can we not lack?" Huang qiaosong nodded to Yun Fei.
If China wants to build a fourth generation fighter now, it is not very different from developing a turbofan engine with a thrust to weight ratio of more than 10.
There is no difference, that is from the research basis and investment.
"Come on. Why are there so many idle people in your factory? Just the wages of those people, do they have to be tens of millions a year? How much can you do if these funds are used for the research of your military projects? Also, don''t you retain part of the profits of your civilian products workshops? If you have money to pay bonuses to employees, don''t you have money for research? What I despise most is you state-owned enterprises that don''t treat money as money! " Yun Fei tilted his lips.
Last year, Chengdu aircraft factory ranked second in the list of Chengdu local tyrants with an average year-end bonus of 800 yuan!
The vast majority of state-owned enterprises in Chengdu did not pay more than 200 yuan of year-end bonus, and there were so many under the pressure of the ninth heavy industry. However, Chengdu aircraft factory and the ninth heavy industry have no intersection except the machinery branch, even if the ninth heavy industry has to dig people first, It''s no use digging the personnel in other workshops and branches.
"You son, don''t fucking stand and talk. It doesn''t hurt your back! If you hadn''t paid so many year-end bonuses to employees like a nouveau riche, those senior skilled workers under my hand would be very popular and wait for your recruitment information of Jiuyi heavy every day. Do you think we would be like this? Many units are biting their teeth, pinching their pants and belts, patching together to issue year-end awards. Who doesn''t fucking treat money as money? " When it comes to this, Huang qiaosong is fire.
If it wasn''t Yun Fei, how could he have to give year-end bonuses to workers before he used the tens of millions of research funds he left behind?
As long as there are factories with machinery, few factories don''t hate cloud and gnash their teeth.
And this boy, who is a good money boy, now tells himself in front of himself that state-owned enterprises don''t treat money as money!
My sister-in-law can bear it, and my uncle can''t.
"..." cloud is not speechless.
Where and where is this? I just said it casually. This product actually involves my year-end bonus to my employees last year
"Lao Huang, what are you excited about? You said you were short of money. Didn''t I give you advice? " Yun Fei said.
"..." now it''s Huang qiaosong''s turn to be speechless.
"How to save those wages? The wages of workers in the factory are almost the minimum standard every month. Can they be reduced again? " Huang qiaosong has understood Yunfei''s meaning, but he can''t do it if he wants to be scolded by complete employees such as layoffs.
Anyway, I won''t last long. I''ll either be promoted or retire home. Is it necessary to do something offensive at this time?
"Downsizing! Lay off those who only get paid but don''t work! Is that interesting? " Yun Fei is very depressed about Huang qiaosong''s mind.
Nima, the top leaders of many state-owned factories, because of this idea, the factories that should have broad market prospects had to gradually close down under huge wage pressure.
"Lao Huang, I''m serious. If it weren''t for the old man, I would never give you such an idea when I sat with you for tea for the first time. Perhaps you should understand better than me that under your current salary and bonus system, people who work more and less get the same salary. Even, the salary of military products workshop with less work is higher than that of civil products workshop with more work. Do you think such a thing is reasonable? How motivated can you expect workers under such a system to work? " Yun Fei said solemnly to Huang qiaosong.
Chengdu aircraft factory really should be reformed.
In order to make the J-10, the third generation fighter that can make all Chinese proud, appear as soon as possible, and to let Huang qiaosong prove to the world that the old man will never read people wrong, he had to talk in depth.
If the researchers of Chengdu aircraft factory do not focus most of their energy on the research of civilian products as in the original world, maybe China''s J-10 will appear a few years earlier.
In many military enterprises, because military products and civilian products workshops exist at the same time, workers in military products workshops often work more than those in civilian products workshops for half a year.
The same is true of plant 132 and the aerospace base. Of course, the same is true of the current Jiuyuan base.
This is a very unreasonable phenomenon.
It has dealt a serious blow to the enthusiasm of workers.
Since the establishment of Jiuyi heavy industry, it has abandoned the bad old rules of Jiuyuan, especially the existence of the employment system of leading cadres, so that everyone has to work hard to do their own work and think for the whole company.
Distribution according to work is the most reasonable distribution system.
It is precisely because of this that Jiuyi heavy industry can rely on more than 1000 employees to achieve an annual profit of more than 100 million.
"Do you have to?" Huang qiaosong was silent.
"It must be so. It is necessary to do things that offend people. Of course, this is on the premise that you want to expand the international influence of Chengdu aircraft factory. Only by making your factory more profitable can you have a greater voice! Now the strategic center of the whole country is on economic development. If you double the profits of Chengdu aircraft factory, do you think your factory will not agree to pay for the research of the fourth generation fighter? " Yun Fei was seducing Huang qiaosong like a big gray wolf who tricked the little white rabbit to open the door with a carrot.
The reason why Yunfei constantly fooled Huang qiaosong to start the project of the fourth generation fighter is because of the need of national pride in his heart.
"If your 132 factory really sets up a project to engage in the research of the fourth generation fighter, 91 heavy industry and 91 Research Institute will definitely do their best to cooperate with you!" Yun Fei used his killer mace.