"Cooperation needs to be led by 91 heavy industry!" Such domineering words not only stunned Su Guangxiang, but also let Yang Qing of northern heavy industry take a breath.
This boy, this is going against the sky!
Originally, before coming to Chengdu, Yang Qing told Su Guangxiang of Northeast China and that they could choose to produce and use the CNC machine tool manufacturing technology of 91 heavy industry to improve their overall technology and avoid simple support for Japanese technology.
However, this does not mean that they are willing to regard Jiuyi heavy industry as the same status as those CNC machine tool manufacturers in Japan.
Cloud Fei''s words show that they have no autonomy in using the production technology of 91 heavy industry!
They, these large-scale state-owned enterprises, can only be OEM to Jiuyi heavy industry in this aspect of production!
Is that possible?
The answer is obvious! Even if these enterprises can agree in order to survive and benefit, the Ministry of industry cannot agree! China''s main body is collective ownership. Even with the reform and opening up, the proportion of collective ownership and non collective ownership is strictly controlled（ Although everyone who knows it thinks it''s bullshit)
Yun Fei, a small factory in the hands of a private boss, actually wants to drive Ling to a state-owned enterprise! Let the state-owned enterprises only give him this small enterprise to OEM!
How can this be acceptable?
"Boss Yun, your condition is too difficult to accept. We came to Chengdu with sincerity of cooperation..." Yang Qing frowned and said to Yunfei, who has no sincerity of cooperation.
"Mr. Yang, as I said, the foundation of this cooperation is led by the Jiuyi heavy industry!" Yun indirectly and rudely interrupted Yang Qing.
He has his own consideration about this matter.
"If so, we won''t have to talk!" Yang Qing was so angry with the young boss who didn''t even grow a beard on his mouth that he lost interest in talking.
The reason why he went to Chengdu is because he saw the opportunities here.
North heavy industry group is now enjoying unlimited scenery, but now the state is gradually putting the heavy equipment manufacturing business into other large machinery plants in order to improve the industrial manufacturing level of the whole country.
The main development direction of North heavy industry group in the future should turn from military industry to private market.
A peaceful era is no better than a war era. It is impossible for a country to develop a large number of military industries.
With the in-depth development of reform and opening up, the rise of China''s private manufacturing industry has unlimited development potential and development space for the most basic machine tool equipment manufacturing industry.
Otherwise, as the general manager of northern heavy industry, he doesn''t have to run projects in the capital like other state-owned enterprises.
"If you don''t have to talk, don''t talk! Now the country has entered the era of legal system, and encourages the development of private economy! Don''t think that if you are an enterprise at the beginning of a national brand, you can be like a hooligan. If you look at other people''s technology, you can grab it! " When Jiuyi heavy industry was first built, it was boycotted by major state-owned machine tool factories. Coupled with this incident, Yun Fei did not have the slightest favor for the leaders of these state-owned enterprises.
Now the military boss made it clear that he said someone was covered by the military!
These people come to the door to talk about cooperation. Don''t they know that cooperation negotiation is that one party asks sky high prices and the other party sits down and pays back the money?
I don''t think the conditions offered by 91 heavy industry are too harsh. You can go to Japan and find those CNC machine tool companies in Germany!
"Mr. Yang, since we are negotiating, it is normal for the other party to offer any terms. If we can talk about it, we will cooperate. If we can''t talk about it, we will not cooperate. Why should we make such a big fire? " Seeing that the two parties had just started the negotiation, the just started negotiation entered a stalemate. As an intermediary, pan Zhigao could only persuade Yang Qing with a bitter smile.
Now, Jiuyi heavy industry has gradually become a climate. Even if these state-owned enterprises want to get other people''s production technology, it is not possible at all! Can''t even the Ministry of industry, SASAC and other departments unite to put pressure on 91 heavy industry?
Yesterday, Wu Zhongda took them to visit the production workshop of Jiuyi heavy industry. They saw many large castings used in processing centers at the busy production site. They knew that Jiuyi heavy industry had a mature production capacity of three-axis processing center.
Otherwise, they would never start producing machining centers now.
Otherwise, this is to lift a stone and hit yourself in the foot. In the end, it will be cheap for those Taiwan CNC machine tool plants that are about to start large-scale production on the market.
When they saw the experimental building of the 91 Research Institute located at the 91 heavy industry center and wanted to enter and visit, Wu Zhongda told them that the building was not open to them. Later, when they saw armed men standing guard nearby, they knew that this private artificial factory was not as simple as it seemed!
There must be some very important military research. They don''t know exactly what it is.
At the same time, it is not incomprehensible that when they were in the capital, the people of the Military Commission were arrested because Yun Fei, the boss of 91 heavy industry, personally went to the important people of the SASAC. The position of 91 heavy industry in the eyes of the military is no worse than that of these state-owned enterprises.
"Is there anything he asks so much? This is clearly to let our enterprises become his subordinates of 91 heavy industry! " Yang Qing was so angry at Yunfei''s words.
They don''t have to rely on the breath of Jiuyi heavy industry to survive!
"We can talk about this. Although boss Yun is young, he is not a person who doesn''t understand things..." boss Yun is a good man. He didn''t look at it. Did people take the initiative to give us hundreds of thousands of profits from Heavy CNC lathes?
"..." Yang Qing and Su Guangxiang rolled their eyes when they heard pan Zhigao''s words.
This old thing is shameless.
"Now we have seen the situation of our domestic CNC machine tool market. There is no need to explain too much here. In order to unify the machine tools produced by all manufacturers, we Jiuyi heavy industry carry out assembly, sales and other after-sales services in order to improve the competitiveness of our domestic CNC machine tool brand! Of course, the original and new models developed in the future still use their own brands... "It is impossible for Jiuyi heavy industry to transfer technology to state-owned factories.
I didn''t see. Is the base of the Ninth Hospital helping us with supporting now?
Jiuyi heavy industry now does not lack technology, but only production capacity!
These days, Yunfei also wants to understand that it is impossible for an enterprise, whether in China or other countries, to support an industry.
Benefit equally!
Then let these enterprises with equal interests form a precise connection, so that they can integrate their advantages and minimize the risk.
In the past, it was because Jiuyi heavy industry was unique in the CNC machine tool industry in the domestic mainland market. Even large state-owned enterprises could not compete with foreign competitors on medium-sized CNC machine tools. What can he do for a small private enterprise like him?
Therefore, it is very normal that wave after wave of people want to share the technology of 91 heavy industry.
If there were several large state-owned enterprises as allies of Jiuyi heavy industry from the beginning, would there be so many things?
With the development of Jiuyi heavy industry, there is no ally at all! The Jiuyuan base is not at all. After all, this enterprise was not for profit. Now it is declining. Many factories even release the wages and bonuses of workers.
Especially those workshops that produce relatively high-end weapons, after the national strategic adjustment, they can not convert their production capacity into civilian products, and there is no national order. The base can only support these workshops!
"Boss Yun, if so, how will the profit be distributed?" Such a thing proposed by Yun Fei is not unacceptable.
As long as Jiuyi heavy industry hands over their technology to them to produce the CNC machine tool brand of Jiuyi heavy industry, they can get the technology of Jiuyi heavy industry for free. Finally, as long as they make a little transformation, they can launch their own new CNC machine tools.
"Let''s leave the matter of profit distribution to the end! Let''s talk about cooperation first. My preliminary idea is that all parties will help us process various products to the assembly state according to the drawings provided by our Jiuyi heavy industry, and then we Jiuyi heavy industry will assemble them by ourselves... "Yun Fei clearly stated his vision for cooperation.
He is learning from those international large aircraft manufacturers and globalization of production!
When there is no trust building mechanism initially, we can only put all the assembly to Jiuyi heavy industry.
After we trust each other, we can set up assembly plants in the places where we produce spare parts and machine tools, and only do assembly business.
"President Su, what do you think of this cooperation model?" Now this cooperation mode is mainly for CNC lathes.
For the production of CNC milling machine, Yunfei has not found a suitable partner.
If nothing happens this time, the capital first aircraft should be the most ideal partner. After Jiuyi heavy industry developed more advanced CNC machine tools, Yunfei didn''t mind giving these early technologies to those enterprises that formed strategic cooperation with Jiuyi heavy industry.
A factory cannot expand indefinitely.
The purpose of Jiuyi heavy industry is to hold the most advanced technology in China, plan and concentrate the strength that the whole country can concentrate, and compete with those foreign CNC machine tools in the international market. Of course, this is only the strategic plan of 91 heavy industry. Now it is too difficult to achieve this.
In any case, Jiuyi heavy industry is not worried about the lack of market.
Those countries that have been sanctioned and technology blocked by Europe, America and Japan, countries with socialist system, or countries with friendly relations with China, are the market sales places of their 91 heavy industry CNC machine tools!
"Boss Yun, you have this condition... You know the situation of our enterprise. I can''t be the master alone. I have to go back to the company, hold the company''s high-level meeting, and apply to the superior department..." unlike private enterprises, state-owned enterprises can immediately start preparation and even put into research and production as long as they find a business opportunity.
They have to go through a long process of project approval, approval and so on.
Private bosses do these things with their own money and out of their own pockets! State owned enterprises, on the other hand, use the state''s money and pay out of the state''s pocket. Too many people stare at the country''s pockets. If they don''t pay attention, they will be stinked.
"Mr. Su, you don''t have to worry. When the opportunity is right, we will certainly provide you with these technologies of Jiuyi heavy industry. China''s market is big, and the international market is even bigger! In the market of tens of billions of dollars every year, our Jiuyi heavy industry doesn''t have such a big appetite... "If you want people to work hard for yourself, you must give people motivation.
"Mr. Yun, you now have the CNC technology of heavy floor boring machine and heavy gantry milling machine?" Hearing that Yunfei, a young man, was wild & eager to participate in the competition of international CNC machine tools, Yang Qing, who originally regarded Yunfei very highly, immediately reduced Yunfei''s image to a higher level.
The ancients did not deceive me!
His mouth is hairless and he can''t handle things well.
This guy thinks that Jiuyi heavy industry can produce products that can compete with foreign mid-range CNC lathes. He thinks that those international CNC machine tool overlords are paper tigers?
It is estimated that people who understand can know that as long as a large number of foreign medium-grade CNC machine tools flow into China and export the five axis machine tools prohibited from export to China, these CNC machine tools in the Chinese market will be reduced to a higher level.
Jiuyi heavy industry can only produce low-end CNC machine tools, or their three-axis machining centers can barely enter the ranks of middle-grade. However, it is estimated that it will not be easy to compete with the top enterprises in the CNC industry, such as farak in Japan, Mazak in Germany and so on.
Other people''s mainstream high-end CNC machine tools are now five axis linkage machining centers, which are already developing in the direction of industrial robots, while Jiuyi heavy industry is just getting started!
"It''s really not. Now we have just developed a three-axis and three linkage machining center that can be listed. Heavy CNC machine tools are not as easy as these small machine tools..." Yun Fei sighed.
It''s too late to come to this era!
Heavy CNC machine tools are more than twice as difficult as small machine tools of the same type!
Look at the price difference between the CNC lathes produced by Jiuyi heavy industry and the heavy CNC lathes. After an ordinary kjy6140 CNC lathe with a rotation diameter of 400mm is equipped with top accessories such as hydraulic chuck, the market price has also been reduced from 170000 to 150000; A heavy CNC lathe with a rotation diameter of 1600mm is still under development. The external quotation is 2.2 million! Without hydraulic chuck these devices
Such price differences are very normal.
Mainly because of the difficulty of manufacturing! In China in the 1990s, enterprises that can produce heavy-duty lathes with a rotation diameter of more than one meter and five will never exceed one palm!
Otherwise, Yunfei can''t find Hal heavy industry to cooperate.